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Real Clear Politics 1/6/2023

 



Macgregor: The Army Will Be Needed At The Border To Fight Cartels, And The Fighting Will Spill Into The U.S.

Posted By Ian Schwartz
January 6, 2023

Ret. Col. Douglas Macgregor in an interview Friday with FOX News host Tucker Carlson warned there is a "war with the drug cartels" at the U.S.-Mexico border and fighting will eventually spill on the American side. Macgregor said Mexican President Obrador is irrelevant and a mouthpiece for the cartels, adding Mexico is "the only truly existential threat" to America.

"What we are seeing here is not an effort to enforce the law, not an effort to do anything good," Macgregor said. "It's a fight between a cartel, the Sinaloa Cartel, and the Mexican army. They're fighting for turf, they're fighting for cash, they're fighting for influence inside Mexico."

"There is no cooperation with Mexico. President Obrador is irrelevant. He does not run the country. He's a mouthpiece for the drug cartels," Macgregor said.


"At some point we will shut down the border because things will have gotten that bad," Macgregor told Carlson. "When we do that, we will immediately be at war with the drug cartels because we cut off their income. We are going to have to fight inside the United States as well as on our border. And that's going to demand the United States army because our border patrol is not nearly as well-equipped. They are outgunned, outperformed in every sense, every category of military power by the cartels."

"Ukraine and Mexico are just about equally corrupt," Macgregor said. "As you point out, Ukraine means a lot of money for a lot of people in Washington, shutting down the border, stopping the influx of illegals, stopping the influx of human trafficking, and going after the drug cartels doesn't really make anybody money."

DOUG MACGREGOR: So what we are seeing here is not an effort to enforce the law, not an effort to do anything good. It's a fight between a cartel, the Sinaloa Cartel, and the Mexican army. They're fighting for turf, they're fighting for cash, they're fighting for influence inside Mexico. They want the son of El Chapo presumably so they can give it to the president of Mexico and he can create the illusion that by turning him over to us that there is cooperation with Mexico. There is no cooperation with Mexico. President Obrador is irrelevant. He does not run the country. He's a mouthpiece for the drug cartels...

TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS: If the president of Mexico is a mouthpiece for the drug cartels and the government of Mexico has allowed millions of foreign nationals to stream over its territory into our country along with fentanyl that's killed hundreds of thousands of people in this country, why is Mexico not our main enemy?

MACGREGOR: That's a good point because Mexico right now -- in Central America writ large because of the criminality -- is an existential threat to us. It's the only truly existential threat to the country. And remember, they reach into the United States -- all of your major cities there are networks there that reach back into Mexico.

That's why they are powerful and that is a war that will eventually have to be fought because at some point we will shut down the border because things will have gotten that bad. When we do that, we will immediately be at war with the drug cartels because we cut off their income. We are going to have to fight inside the United States as well as on our border. And that's going to demand the United States army because our border patrol is not nearly as well-equipped. They are outgunned, outperformed in every sense, every category of military power by the cartels. What you saw is a good demonstration of just how powerful those cartels are.

CARLSON: So you're saying we could see scenes like this in our country?

MACGREGOR: Absolutely, it's inevitable.

CARLSON: So the last time a president suggested deploying the U.S. military to the border the Pentagon scoffed at him. I think unconstitutionally but they did. Do you think the Pentagon would be willing to fight the drug cartels? It seems like they issue their own orders at this point.

MACGREGOR: The fact that you are raising the question is a sad and tragic comment on the state of civil-military relations. We have people at the top of the military establishment who pick and choose from a menu of tasks and decide what they will and won't do presumably because there's lots of money in the Ukraine war and there's not money them in the Mexican war.

Bear in mind that Ukraine and Mexico are just about equally corrupt. The difference is that right now they're killing more people in Ukraine, but the murder rate in Mexico is one of the highest in the world, about 136 out of every 100,000. It leads most of the world in murder. It's not that far off, it wouldn't take much to catch up with Ukraine. As you point out, Ukraine means a lot of money for a lot of people in Washington, shutting down the border, stopping the influx of illegals, stopping the influx of human trafficking, and going after the drug cartels doesn't really make anybody money.



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